From martin@foo31-146.visit.se Mon Mar 18 10:44:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from foo31-146.visit.se (foo31-146.visit.se [62.119.31.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9CD37B402 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by foo31-146.visit.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2IIhZx02478; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:43:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Message-Id: <200203181843.g2IIhZx02478@foo31-146.visit.se> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:43:35 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Karlsson Reply-To: Martin Karlsson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to ...best results from FreeBSD-questions... X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: >Number: 36055 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to ...best results from FreeBSD-questions... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: brueffer >State: closed >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 18 10:50:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: Fri Apr 04 10:28:18 CEST 2003 >Last-Modified: Fri Apr 04 10:28:18 CEST 2003 >Originator: Martin Karlsson >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD foo31-146.visit.se 4.5-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat Mar 16 23:55:27 CET 2002 root@foo31-146.visit.se:/usr/src/sys/compile/ADAM i386 >Description: Currently, the 'How to get the best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list' article contains no information on what someone could try to do to help him/herself, or where to look for info, nor does it contain info on the benefits of trying to help oneself before asking -questions. The patch I am submitting suggests trying one's manpages, the docs, mailing list archives and search engines. If anything regarding this PR and the patch is unclear or needs discussion, please do not hesitate to contact me. Regards, -- Martin Karlsson >How-To-Repeat: Read freebsd-questions for a week and see how the same questions seem to reappear, suggesting that posters do not read manpages, documentation, or search mailing list archives before posting their question. >Fix: *** article_change.sgml Mon Mar 18 18:33:16 2002 --- article.sgml Fri Mar 15 09:28:13 2002 *************** *** 197,240 **** How to submit a question ! ! Before submitting your question: ! ! ! ! Try solving the problem on your own. If you post a question which ! shows that you have tried to solve the problem, your question will generally ! attract more positive attention from people reading it. Trying to solve the ! problem yourself will also enhance your understanding of FreeBSD, and will ! eventually let you use your knowledge to help others by answering questions ! posted to the mailing lists. ! ! ! ! Use the manpages, and the FreeBSD documentation (either installed ! in /usr/doc or accessible via WWW at ! http://www.FreeBSD.org), especially ! the handbook and the ! FAQ. ! ! ! ! Browse and/or search the archives for the mailing list, to see if your ! question or a similiar one has been asked (and possibly answered) on the list. ! You can browse and/or search the mailing list archives at ! http://www.FreeBSD.org/mail ! and ! http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists respectively. This can be done ! at other WWW sites as well, e.g at ! http://marc.theaimsgroup.com. ! ! ! ! Try searching a search engine such as Google or ! Yahoo. Google even has a ! BSD-specific search interface. ! ! When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: --- 197,203 ---- How to submit a question ! When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: From: Martin Karlsson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: docs/36055: [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to ...best results from FreeBSD-questions... Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:04:38 +0100 * Martin Karlsson [2002-03-18 19.43 +0100]: Well, hopefully my last screw-up for this year (not likely :-)) ... -- Martin ---------8<-----------------8<----------------------8<----------------8<--------- --- article.old Tue Mar 19 18:59:09 2002 +++ article.new Tue Mar 19 18:58:58 2002 @@ -198,6 +198,44 @@ How to submit a question + Before submitting your question: + + + Try solving the problem on your own. If you post a question which + shows that you have tried to solve the problem, your question will + generally attract more positive attention from people reading it. + Trying to solve the problem yourself will also enhance your understanding + of FreeBSD, and will eventually let you use your knowledge to help others + by answering questions posted to the mailing lists. + + + + + Use the manpages, and the FreeBSD documentation (either installed + in /usr/doc or accessible via WWW at + http://www.FreeBSD.org), especially the handbook + and the FAQ. + + + + + Browse and/or search the archives for the mailing list, to see if your + question or a similiar one has been asked (and possibly answered) on the + list. You can browse and/or search the mailing list archives + at http://www.FreeBSD.org/mail + and http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists + respectively. This can be done at other WWW sites as well, for example + at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com. + + + + + Try searching a search engine such as Google + or Yahoo. Google even has + a BSD-specific search interface. + + + When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 24 14:44:07 CET 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36055 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 4 10:27:30 CEST 2003 State-Changed-Why: I have committed a slightly modified patch, thanks for the submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36055 >Unformatted: