為什麼有人會比你成功10倍

From owner-freebsd-ppc Mon Mar 3 5:27:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810AD37B401 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 05:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from gt3.OntheNet.com.au (nt.com.au [203.13.70.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179CF43FBD for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 05:27:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-238-180.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.238.180]) by gt3.OntheNet.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h23DRqVU064333; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:27:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3E635E5E.EA6536C3@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 23:53:34 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA patch and others References: <7678840.1046485485002.JavaMail.nobody@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Sean, > Now that I've got this stuff working -- what would be > the most useful testing I could do at this point? (I want > to get into the porting effort but I'm not quite up to it > yet) Try out all your favourite utilities and see if they work OK or not. Maybe try and compile a few ports. I'll put some instructions together for getting a system working from disk. later, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ppc Mon Mar 3 8:38:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E3A37B407 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sinamail.com (61-221-29-145.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.221.29.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572C143F93 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:38:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from suppergeorge@sinamail.com) From: star@yahoo.com.tw To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?prO+97d8p0HEQLdOpWi5wbjVttw/Pw==?= Reply-To: suppergeorge@sinamail.com Date: 04 Mar 2003 00:43:45 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030303163839.572C143F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 為什麼有人會比你成功10倍
主旨: 這或許是您正在尋找的機會喔

這或許是您正在找的機會哦！

對不起！打擾了，如果因此造成您的困擾，請直接刪除本信及點選下方「不想再收信」，我們會將您的資料刪除！

為什麼有人會比你成功10倍，收入多100倍、甚至多1000倍，難道他有比你多聰明這麼多嗎？

答案肯定不是的！

想一想！那些收入比我們高很多，生活比我們好很多的人！

他們到底做了什麼是我們所不知道的事？

而我們到底做錯了什麼、又錯過了什麼？

想不想知道人家怎麼做倒的！

你相信「時間＝金錢」、還是「時間＞金錢」

舉例：

我們一天工作8小時，一年工作365天，一輩子工作30年！那我們一輩子的總工作時數？

８小時＊３６５天＊３０年＝８７,６００小時

如果你的時薪100元，你一輩子賺876萬元！

如果你的時薪150元，你一輩子賺1314萬元！

如果你的時薪200元，你一輩子賺1752萬元！

看起來好像很多，看清楚！一年工作365天，要工作30年！而且不吃不喝！

這樣的收入，足夠三餐溫飽；買車子、房子勉強夠用；別忘了，還有子女的教育費、自己的養老金、還有『夢想』等待實現！

這樣的一輩子，你甘心嗎？

身為員工的你，每天辛苦為的是什麼？家庭、小孩？你有沒有想過，你上班一輩子，將來你的小孩能承接你的職位繼續做下去嗎？（除非你自己是老闆）

想不想改變自己及下一代的一生？

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ppc Mon Mar 3 10:37:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3F437B401; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:37:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F3443F85; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.243]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18puoS-0001Us-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:37:21 -0800 Received: from [207.217.78.14] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Mon Mar 03 10:37:20 PST 2003 Message-ID: <2774732.1046716640888.JavaMail.nobody@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:37:19 -0600 (GMT) From: Sean Welch Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org To: Peter Grehan Subject: Re: Re: ATA patch and others Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll get started on that -- I'll compile a list so you can reference it easily. Sean -------Original Message------- From: Peter Grehan Sent: 03/03/03 07:53 AM To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org Subject: Re: ATA patch and others > > Hi Sean, > Now that I've got this stuff working -- what would be > the most useful testing I could do at this point? (I want > to get into the porting effort but I'm not quite up to it > yet) Try out all your favourite utilities and see if they work OK or not. Maybe try and compile a few ports. I'll put some instructions together for getting a system working from disk. later, Peter. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ppc Thu Mar 6 5:59:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881FA37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from uk.com (TC218-187-144-136.adsl.pl.apol.com.tw [218.187.144.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746AB44001 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:59:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhes@uk.com) From: tyjnt5@ergfv4r.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?v/qw96XOISGnT8RGpEikRiEh?= Reply-To: 35yhw@nu6j.com Date: 06 Mar 2003 21:59:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030306135922.746AB44001@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 十分之一的瀏覽者選擇進入

　

十分之一的瀏覽者　選擇進入

十之九的瀏覽者　選擇關閉視窗

然而　我們很滿意這樣的比例　

因為…

這裡的人　所擁有的非凡生活

多是在一種不凡思維下所引發的不凡決定後　偷偷開始的

To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ppc Thu Mar 6 19:57:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1613837B401; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F47F43FE0; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:57:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.242]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18r8yu-0004rj-00; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:57:12 -0800 Received: from [207.217.78.201] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Thu Mar 06 19:57:12 PST 2003 Message-ID: <5012879.1047009432431.JavaMail.nobody@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:56:53 -0600 (GMT) From: Sean Welch Reply-To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org To: Peter Grehan Subject: Re: ATA patch and others Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, here is a brief listing of what I found that worked and what did not work. What worked: ls cat more less vi sh tcsh csh pwd find df du ps dmesg env brandelf file uname tail head echo grep touch route cd w who finger date kldstat ldd which whereis rev test chmod mesg talk mail fetch (That's just what I've tried so far) What hasn't worked: man (the libstdc++ problem) info ("info: dir: File name too long) passwd ("passwd: could not lock the passwd file: : Operation not supported) ports -- first there was no sys.mk so I copied the contents of /usr/share/mk/ into the correct place but then it told me: "===> screen-3.9.13 : Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a mirror site and follow the instructions." -- I was trying to buid screen... netstat -- almost works -- "netstat: kvm not available" adduser (pw: group update: Operation not supported pwd_mkdb: flock: Operation not supported pw: user 'welchsm' disappeared during update adduser: ERROR: There was an error adding user (welchsm). Add another user? (yes/no): ) This is what I have at this point. Anything you'd like me to try? Sean -------Original Message------- From: Peter Grehan Sent: 03/03/03 07:53 AM To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org Subject: Re: ATA patch and others > > Hi Sean, > Now that I've got this stuff working -- what would be > the most useful testing I could do at this point? (I want > to get into the porting effort but I'm not quite up to it > yet) Try out all your favourite utilities and see if they work OK or not. Maybe try and compile a few ports. I'll put some instructions together for getting a system working from disk. later, Peter. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ppc Thu Mar 6 20:33:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CBE37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gt3.OntheNet.com.au (nt.com.au [203.13.70.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A76043FD7 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-238-180.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.238.180]) by gt3.OntheNet.com.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h274XTrN041479; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:33:31 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3E68212A.F9F0DF38@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:33:46 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean_Welch@alum.wofford.org Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA patch and others References: <5012879.1047009432431.JavaMail.nobody@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Sean, > What worked: Thanks for that. > What hasn't worked: > > man (the libstdc++ problem) Hopefully this will be fixed when David does the toolchain stuff. > info ("info: dir: File name too long) I'll look into this one. > passwd ("passwd: could not lock the passwd file: : Operation not supported) > adduser (pw: group update: Operation not supported > pwd_mkdb: flock: Operation not supported > pw: user 'welchsm' disappeared during update > adduser: ERROR: There was an error adding user (welchsm). I think these are symptoms of not running the lock daemon on your NFS server. I've been able to run all of these when booting/running from disk. > ports -- first there was no sys.mk I'll look into this one too. > netstat -- almost works -- "netstat: kvm not available" Yep, known problem - libkvm is just stubs and needs to be implemented. Some parts of netstat work, such as TCP statistics, that don't require kvm. > Anything you'd like me to try? Sure, give some more utilities a try. Thanks for your help! later, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ppc Thu Mar 6 22:11:48 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E9237B406 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Tserver.TrueStep.com (Tserver.TrueStep.com [64.253.96.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE96543FA3 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rorya@TrueStep.com) Received: from TrueStep.com (rory@Yosemite.lan [10.1.1.4]) by Tserver.TrueStep.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h276BDix049739 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 01:11:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rorya@TrueStep.com) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 01:11:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: -CURRENT hardware support / willing to test From: Rory Arms To: FreeBSD-ppc@FreeBSD.Org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-101.3 required=4.0 tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm just curious. I just started following this mailing list this past week. I used Peter Grehan's root & kernel system tarball, from his site (dated Feb 26, I think), on my PowerMac G3 (Yosemite). I noticed it failed when attempting to init grackle (as far as i can tell) and dropped me to the kernel debugger. So, I assume that this machine still isn't supported. Currently, what hardware does powerpc -CURRENT, support? Is it only Macs with the UMA-1 chipset and later models? I believe the chipset came about with the advent of the Sawtooth motherboard. Are these the only models supported currently? I tried it on my G3 Pro because I thought I'd read somewhere on the mailing list archives that NewWorld machines were supported. I have several Macs to my disposal and am willing to test -CURRENT, now that I have the system working over NFS, it would be very simple to do so. I have a PowerMac G3 Pro (Yosemite), a PowerBook G3 Series (Wallstreet,PDQ) and a PowerMac G4 (QuickSilver). Anyhow, I'll be watching the mailing list closely and try to give any feedback on future builds I try. Thanks, -rory -- Name: Rory Arms One of the lessons of history is that nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say. - Will Durant To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ppc Sat Mar 8 0: 5:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EFF37B401 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gt3.OntheNet.com.au (nt.com.au [203.13.70.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A94E43FAF for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:05:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-236-80.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.236.80]) by gt3.OntheNet.com.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2885krN071128; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:05:46 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3E69AA67.6C94F8A3@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:31:35 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rory Arms Cc: FreeBSD-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT hardware support / willing to test References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Rory, > I used Peter Grehan's root & kernel system tarball, from his site > (dated Feb 26, I think), on my PowerMac G3 (Yosemite). I noticed it > failed when attempting to init grackle (as far as i can tell) and > dropped me to the kernel debugger. So, I assume that this machine still > isn't supported. The Blue & White G3's aren't yet supported. But, I have one and things are getting closer. > Currently, what hardware does powerpc -CURRENT, support? Is it only > Macs with the UMA-1 chipset and later models? I believe the chipset > came about with the advent of the Sawtooth motherboard. Are these the > only models supported currently? I tried it on my G3 Pro because I > thought I'd read somewhere on the mailing list archives that NewWorld > machines were supported. That was a bit optimistic. You are right in assuming that UMA-1 (Uninorth) based systems are supported. > I have several Macs to my disposal and am willing to test -CURRENT, now > that I have the system working over NFS, it would be very simple to do > so. I have a PowerMac G3 Pro (Yosemite), a PowerBook G3 Series > (Wallstreet,PDQ) and a PowerMac G4 (QuickSilver). The QuickSilver is your best bet. The Wallstreets are pretty horrible: OpenFirmware 2.0, so it will take a bit of work to get them supported. later, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message