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Topic Title: DOORS in DOORS
Topic Summary: Does Telelogic use DOORS for managing the requirements of DOORS?
Created On: 8-Oct-2008 00:45
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Answer This question was answered by Mandy Livingstone, on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:36 PM

Answer:
As the VP responsible for development for all things DOORS I think I can answer this one and mark it as "This question has been answered"

We have used DOORS for our requirements since I have been around and that is 12 years. We also use the DOORS/MS Project integration and the DOORS Quality Center integration for traceability to our planning and testing.

We use Synergy for all our source control and build management needs, we have done for 8 years or so. We use FocalPoint internally for some prioritization projects.

We have just started to use DOORS Web Access for remote users who want to use the new discussions feature implemented inside DWA 1.0 and DOORS 9.0.

We upgrade our production database as soon as we release a new version of DOORS.

We have ISO 9001 certification (I must get the text of the statement Kevin found updated) and all of our processes are also stored inside DOORS.

Regards

Mandy Livingstone
VP Engineering and Director, Edinburgh Development Laboratory.

mandy.livingstone@uk.ibm.com
 8-Oct-2008 00:45
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Eric Topp

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Does Telelogic "eat its own dog food" ? (For an explanation of this expression see http://www.joelonsoftware.com/...es/fog0000000012.html)

In other words, does Telelogic use DOORS to manage the software requirements for its own products including DOORS?

If so, are these available as a download (e.g. a project archive) from the Telelogic Support web site?
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 8-Oct-2008 12:33
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ron lewis

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In my 10 years of experience with DOORS, I have not seen any indication that Telelogic uses DOORS. Yes, they hire some people that have used DOORS, but there is no evidence they use DOORS for their own product development.
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Kevin Murphy

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I haven't seen any evidence of this either. In my opinion, if they did use DOORS to manage DOORS development, DOORS would be vastly different today (better interface, branching capabilities for software development like SVN, DXL garbage collection, etc.)

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 9-Oct-2008 16:41
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Emmanuel Henri Roland Joyeaux

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I participate each year to the telelogic leadership coucil.
a few years ago, the DOORS product manager used DOORS to capture our (user) requirements.
For the last few years, Focal points is used to do this job.
I have no Idea if DOORS is used to derived system requirements out of the custome requirments, but at least the DOORS product manager told us they do.
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Kevin Murphy

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From https://support.telelogic.com/download/iso9001/index.cfm?vid=340


By using DOORS we ensure that software products and services produced by Telelogic Edinburgh meet the quality our customers require.


and

To meet ISO 9000:2000, it must be possible to trace a product right back to its original specification. Such traceability records are required and maintained by Telelogic using DOORS. This allows traceability and impact analysis to be conducted on all project documentation at all stages of the development process. Telelogic also implements functional traceability, providing bi-directional traceability between product functionality and the system specification. This is achieved by building relationships between project documents and a project-oriented version control system (Telelogic CM Synergy), which is used to manage all program source code for Telelogic DOORS/ERS development.


This text is relatively old, as I haven't seen Telelogic reference "DOORS/ERS", "CM Synergy" or "Telelogic Edinburgh" in a long time.

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Paul R Miller

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During the years when DOORS was owned by QSS in the UK (1992 to 2000), I got to know the owner and founder of the DOORS tool, Dr Richard Stevens. He mentioned many times that DOORS was used to manage it's own specifications. Whether Telelogic continued with this, I don't know.

I have to agree with a comment earlier on though, that if they were using DOORS, then surely the developers would have stumbled upon the config management short comings of their own tool as they must have had many occassions where they needed to branch out and baseline new spec features\variants independently of the main version line.

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Mandy Livingstone

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Answer Answer
As the VP responsible for development for all things DOORS I think I can answer this one and mark it as "This question has been answered"

We have used DOORS for our requirements since I have been around and that is 12 years. We also use the DOORS/MS Project integration and the DOORS Quality Center integration for traceability to our planning and testing.

We use Synergy for all our source control and build management needs, we have done for 8 years or so. We use FocalPoint internally for some prioritization projects.

We have just started to use DOORS Web Access for remote users who want to use the new discussions feature implemented inside DWA 1.0 and DOORS 9.0.

We upgrade our production database as soon as we release a new version of DOORS.

We have ISO 9001 certification (I must get the text of the statement Kevin found updated) and all of our processes are also stored inside DOORS.

Regards

Mandy Livingstone
VP Engineering and Director, Edinburgh Development Laboratory.

mandy.livingstone@uk.ibm.com
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 30-Oct-2008 14:27
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Kevin Murphy

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Mandy,

Thanks for enlightening us.

I have a follow-up question. Generally Telelogic has supported the last two years' worth of DOORS releases. So how are requirements managed in DOORS for DOORS product releases?

Say you finish DOORS 8.3 and start work on DOORS 9.0. How do you manage that? Do you create a new project for DOORS 9.0? Do you change the "release" attribute for requirements that you update or create?

Managing this type of information is one of DOORS' biggest weaknesses and I'm curious as to how Telelogic' approaches this problem.

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