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Topic Title: DOORS 9.0 (Slides now posted)
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Created On: 10-Jul-2008 22:40
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 10-Jul-2008 22:40
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David Pechacek

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I know a few of you were in there. Still no DXL garbage collection for us.

Anyone actually know of any improvements for the new version?

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Edited: 17-Jul-2008 at 12:16 by David Pechacek
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 11-Jul-2008 18:45
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Kevin Murphy

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I'll likely blog about it in the future, but I was very underwhelmed. This does not seem like a major release to me. How many of us are truly clamoring for the same login/password across databases?

(I'm not saying that isn't nice, but it's more a feature of TDS than DOORS, and I could really do without it and be fine.)

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 13-Jul-2008 05:32
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Pete Kowalski

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I did not evaluate DOORS 9.0.

My poor mans implementation of a garbage collection is that I have my DXL programs, in specific cases, automatically shut-down the client, restart it, and continue where the script / user left off automatically.

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 14-Jul-2008 00:04
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Scott Boisvert

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I would have to say that I wasn't really impressed with the presentation either. I do know one thing that they did fix in 9.0 that wasn't talked about (probably 'cause it is a bug fix).

In DOORS 8.3, sometimes when you create a baseline (for us it is a pretty hard error) DOORS will throw an access exception violation, the baseline is still actually created fine, but for those that don't know it raises a question. Telelogic claims that it doesn't lock up DOORS, however we've experienced several times where DOORS has locked up because the "New Baseline" dialog doesn't close and it loses it's reference so it can't be closed. The error is supposedly caused by the baseline script checking for a Synergy Change integration, if there isn't one it causes the error sometimes.

I've had a support case open for quite a while as well as contacted our account rep. They claim it has been fixed in 9.0. When I requested a patch for 8.3, I was pretty much given the cold shoulder. So much for customer service. Amazingly enough, this "known" issue is not documented anywhere on the web site, at least not that I could find.

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Edited: 14-Jul-2008 at 00:06 by Scott Boisvert
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 14-Jul-2008 12:52
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David Pechacek

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Thanks for letting me know Scott. I was about to submit a support case about this because my people are getting this nearly every time they baseline now. Good to know the answer is "Shhhh......" Actually I think I'll submit a support case anyway to help you push for a patch because I'm not even sure we'll be able to upgrade to 9.0 for a while since we're still rolling out 8.3.

We've also gotten one error where DOORS would not let us baseline at the next version number (1.5->1.6 for instance) saying that the baseline already exists. Baselining at the next major release number (2.0) made it go through.

One question they didn't answer for me was whether we can use the web access on an 8.3 server and whether or not we need to upgrade our license server again for 9.0. The web access is a wonderful addition especially since its cheaper for licenses.

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 14-Jul-2008 13:54
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Scott Boisvert

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We're in a similar situation, just upgraded to 8.3 and now we're in the middle of a certification which makes it extremely difficult to move to a new version of the tool.

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 14-Jul-2008 22:35
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David Pechacek

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Just got this response from my ticket (actually from my other bug but since the two are related)

"We are communicating with our product management for a possibility of the patch for DOORS 8.3. I will update you on this when I hear back from them."

Lets hope they choose the road less traveled and issue a patch.

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Edited: 14-Jul-2008 at 22:37 by David Pechacek
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 15-Jul-2008 12:45
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Scott Boisvert

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Thanks for the update David. Would be nice to have the patch.

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 16-Jul-2008 12:24
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David Pechacek

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Have any of you gotten the slides from the presentation yet? I never got that survey they mentioned where we would be allowed to ask questions and request a copy.

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 16-Jul-2008 12:48
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Scott Boisvert

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I haven't received anything from them yet.

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 16-Jul-2008 14:30
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Simon Haydn

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Here's a copy of the DOORS 9.0 PowerPoint presentation. They also did one for DOORS Web Access and I can upload that if anyone's interested in that too?

Regards, Simon.


Ok, it won't let me upload the slides!

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Edited: 16-Jul-2008 at 14:32 by Simon Haydn
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 16-Jul-2008 15:09
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Pete Kowalski

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@Simon:

Could you post the slides somewhere or send 'em to me? Email is in my signature.

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 16-Jul-2008 17:01
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David Pechacek

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Please email them to me as well at my work address. Thanks.

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 16-Jul-2008 18:18
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Scott Boisvert

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Me too please.

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 17-Jul-2008 12:15
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David Pechacek

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Here are the slides posted.




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 17-Jul-2008 15:56
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Kevin Murphy

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Opinion: DOORS 9

I'm blogging about DOORS 9 here so that it's captured by Google and the like, because pages in this forum are not.

Maybe if Telelogic's customers and potential customers see more postings like mine in public, features will be implemented in a more timely manner.

We can dream, right?

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