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Topic Title: "Copy Release"
Topic Summary: Should be "Create Release"
Created On: 14-Apr-2005 21:05
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 14-Apr-2005 21:05
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Todd Alden

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The Java Client menu choice "Copy Release" is a little confusing (at least non-obvious).

"Create Release..." is more intuative, or if you want to be more specific "Create Release From..." (consistent with the dialog box) or "Create Release Based on..." (consistent with the terminology in the Classic Client).

In addition, on the "Create Release From" dialog, it would be nice to have either context sensative help, or (since the dialog is some small) a short description of the operation at the bottom of the dialog box. Something like "Will create a new release copying the attributes from the "From" release and setting the "Baseline" [release value] to the "From" release value.
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 19-Apr-2005 16:44
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Troy Dugger

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I agree that this needs to be improved, but that effort will have to wait until the entire set of release management features is brought into the client. This particular feature was put into the client late in the release and was not put under the design scrutiny as other features. We will keep your comments in mind. Thanks.

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Telelogic North America, Inc.
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 19-Apr-2005 18:39
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Todd Alden

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In keeping with your reply to another thread, why create a new term ("Copy Release") when it is likely to change in the future. Why not change the label to "Create Release" or some variation of "Create...". This is a term that people are already familiar with and it is intuative. Why not change a simple label (yea, I know it's a more than that, with online help, etc...) to make the tool easier to use TODAY.
Seems like there is a very strong reluctance to make any changes, even to make the product easier to use. I understand the scheudel pressures, but if even menu label changes are off-limits because of schedule to get the production release out, then why do we bother with a beta? There is a STRONG feeling in the user community that the old client is hard to use with non-intuative concepts and terms. It seems that with this release the Java Client, it is starting down that road. I'd REALLY like to avoid that. (I',m obviously, I'm talking about more than just this label now.)
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 20-Apr-2005 06:06
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Pam Young

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Hi Todd-

I respect your opinion on this, but I do not believe this will be a big issue for users for us to stay with the chosen terminology. We chose Copy Release specifically to indicate the behavior of making a release based on an existing release. We are standing by this decision.

I do want you to understand that we have gone to great pains in this client and in this release in particular to make the product easier to use. Terminology is always tricky, but the worst thing we can do is repeatedly change terminology every time someone doesn't agree with our choice of terms.

Thanks for your input, but we will not be changing this at this time.

Pam Young
Director of Development
CM Applications
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