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Topic Title: Does 10.4 require an installation of 10.3 to upgrade?
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Created On: 25-May-2006 16:30
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 25-May-2006 16:30
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David Aden

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the section below is from the readme for 10.4. It says that in order to update a pre-10.3 database to 10.4 I need to have a 10.3 installation. Step 2 of the convert process says you need to open the database in 10.3 -- does it work to open it in 10.4 as well? If not, is it possible to run 10.3 on the same machine with 10.4? If so, can I use the same license with 10.3 as I have for 10.4? Thanks! d -------------------------------------------- To upgrade System Architect V10.3 encyclopedias to V10.4 you only need to open the V10.3 encyclopedias with System Architect V10.4. However, encyclopedias created with V10.1, V10.0, or V9 of the product must be converted to V10.3 format before can be updated automatically to V10.4. This is a two-stage process: I. Convert the data of the encyclopedia using SAEM, as follows: Run System Architect Encyclopedia Manager (SAEM) (select Start, Programs, Telelogic, System Architect Suite, SAEM). In SAEM, log in to the server containing the encyclopedia you wish to upgrade (select Server, Connect). Choose the encyclopedia you wish to upgrade (select Database, Select Database). In SAEM, select Tools, Convert to 10.3 Format. This will convert the data to the format necessary to be used with System Architect 10.3. II. A person with a System Administrator's role, or the owner of the encyclopedia, must open the converted encyclopedia in System Architect V10.3, as follows: Find out who the owner of an encyclopedia is using SAEM (for MSDE) or Microsoft's Enterprise Manager (for SQL Server). Have that person or a person with a System Administrator's role, open the converted encyclopedia in SA V10.3. System Architect will automatically try to add new stored procedures and tables to the existing encyclopedia when it is initially opened with SA V10.3. As long as a person with a Systems Administrator role or the owner of the encyclopedia opens converted encyclopedia, the stored procedures will be properly created with an owner of 'dbo'. --------------------------------------------

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Webworld Technologies, Inc.
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 31-May-2006 11:52
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Jonathan Burlingame

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I agree, the documentation is confusing. Regardless of what they are intending to say in the documentation, my experience is that you do not need a 10.3 machine. I upgraded from 10.1.11 directly to 10.4.13. In order to upgrade my encyclopedias, I had to first go into SAEM after the 10.4 install and have SAEM convert the encyclopedias to a 10.3 format. From there, I could just open the encyclopedia in SA v10.4 and it automatically made the necessary changes.
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 1-Jun-2006 15:55
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Peter Gøtz

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I agree with David and Jonathan, the documentation is confusing. I've just upgraded from version 10.1.14 to 10.3 and couldn't use what's written in the documentation because SAEM is expected to be installed on the SQL-server. We were advised to(not guaranteed from Telelogic) 1) export encyclopedia's from the central SQL-server, 2) convert the encyclopedia's locally on a PC with SAEM and System Architect version 10.3 installed, 3) export the encyclopedia's through SAEM, 4) Import the encyclopedia's on the central SQL-server. It worked, but there is nothing written in the guide's what is expected when using SAEM. Now it works. But you really get worried about what to do when things aren't working. We're moving fast to version 10.4 because of xsd- and bpel-support. Really something we needed.

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