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Topic Title: Upgrade from 10.0 to 10.4 (soon to be 10.7)
Topic Summary: Additonal requested functionality
Created On: 15-Feb-2007 20:51
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 15-Feb-2007 20:51
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Adam Basye

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We are in the process of upgrading and are deciding on whether to wait for 10.7 due out this May (2007) or going with the most current available SA which I believe is 10.4.  Either way we have the problem of having to upgrade the encyclopedias to 10.3 before upgrading to any higher version.  Is there are work-around this?  As installing 10.3, upgrading all encyclopedias, and than removing 10.3 and installing 10.4 (or 10.7) and upgrading encyclopedias again seems an to be an extraordinary hassle. 

I would like to suggest some additional functionality in the upcoming release of 10.7 to be able to upgrade encyclopedias older than 10.3 (in our case 10.0.22).  I cannot see how this functionality can be that hard to implement, and without it, it proves a serious headache to our business in particular.  We are in a position where we can not upgrade every patch but are more likely once every other year.  Additionally this software resides on a secure LAN and removing, adding software takes serious time, effort, and involvement from multiple parties. 

If that additional functionality would be implemented in 10.7 (along with the already including your own SVG viewer) this would greatly ease our upgrade process. 
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 15-Feb-2007 21:04
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Cam Chapman

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My understanding of the version migration is that there is also a license migration required from versions 10 < 10.3. This would need to occur as part of the app migration to 10.3 and beyond. It seems the jump to 10.3 was a big one for Telelogic!

The encyclopedia upgrades should form part of your migration process. It is a hassle but correctly managed can be done relatively quickly. How many encyclopedias do you have to migrate?

Can you not go straight to 10.4, bypassing 10.3?

I'm interested in hearing from Telelogic as to the degree of the 'environmental' upgrade is expected to be for 10.7?
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 16-Feb-2007 13:49
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Theodore Menard

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I have upgraded V9.0 and V10.0 databases to V10.4.23.  To ease this step My SQL DB admin made me the Owner of the databases.  I then opened SAEM, found the specific databases and under tool selected Upgrade to V10.3. I then opened the database with SA V10.4 select yes to the two upgrade questions and the upgrade was complete.  Depending on how the db assesses are set up you need to open users/user groups that have db_datareader and db_datawriter and grant them the 11 executable permissions that were established. 

Remember that at V10.3 Telelogic went to the FlexLM License manager so there are separate license issues going for V10.0.22 to 10.4.23. 

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 16-Feb-2007 15:49
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Adam Basye

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I am well aware of the separate license issue.  Having to provide specific MAC address for the server license manager was another side issue recently resolved.  From what I understand the FlexLM license manager is basically another program only required to load onto the license server itself, which should not be a serious issue in our mind.

We currently have over 40 active encyclopedias, making a two-step upgrade process even timelier.  If I can use 10.4 SAEM to upgrade each encyclopedia to 10.3, and than manually upgrade each encyclopedia via SA to 10.4 (or 10.7), that would be a work around.  What I do not want to do is have to load 10.3 license manager, 10.3 SA, to upgrade each and every encyclopedia, than remove all 10.3 SA and Flex License manager, only to install 10.4 SA, and 10.4 license manger and do the same all over again.  As loading and removing software on our classified LAN is not an easy process.

Another issue I see us personally trying to avoid is that we work with several other commands that use SA at different versions.  Right now it seems 10.3 is really the only backwards compatible version of SA.  This means if we jump to 10.4 and try to import encyclopedias from other commands using anything before 10.3, we are going to have another problem since we cannot have two versions of SA running on the same LAN.  They might as well be using another a whole separate piece of software if 10.4 cannot convert a previous 10.3 version encyclopedia.  Why this backwards functionality would be removed, I cannot understand. 

I guess my question is still will this backwards functionality be included in the upcoming 10.7?  If not, is there any way to add this functionality to the upcoming release?  I would not even care if the software does it in the two-step method of going to 10.3, and than from 10.3 to 10.4 or 10.7. 

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